Passage
Proverbs 8.30
Book: Proverbs · NASB95
Immediate context (±2 verses)
ASV
28. When he made firm the skies above, When the fountains of the deep became strong, 29. When he gave to the sea its bound, That the waters should not transgress his commandment, When he marked out the foundations of the earth;
30. Then I was by him, as a master workman; And I was daily his delight, Rejoicing always before him,
- Rejoicing in his habitable earth; And my delight was with the sons of men. 32. Now therefore, my sons, hearken unto me; For blessed are they that keep my ways. (Proverbs 8:28-32, ASV)
WEB
28. when he established the clouds above, when the springs of the deep became strong, 29. when he gave to the sea its boundary, that the waters should not violate his commandment, when he marked out the foundations of the earth;
30. then I was the craftsman by his side. I was a delight day by day, always rejoicing before him,
- Rejoicing in his whole world. My delight was with the sons of men. 32. “Now therefore, my sons, listen to me, for blessed are those who keep my ways. (Proverbs 8:28-32, WEB)
KJV
28. When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep: 29. When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
30. Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
- Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men. 32. Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways. (Proverbs 8:28-32, KJV)
YLT
28. In His strengthening clouds above, In His making strong fountains of the deep, 29. In His setting for the sea its limit, And the waters transgress not His command, In His decreeing the foundations of earth,
30. Then I am near Him, a workman, And I am a delight, day by day. Rejoicing before Him at all times,
- Rejoicing in the habitable part of His earth, And my delights [are] with the sons of men. 32. And now, ye sons, hearken to me, Yea, happy are they who keep my ways. (Proverbs 8:28-32, YLT)
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Theological reading
Patristic / early-church-father exegesis, to be added.
Key words
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Arguments and defeaters:
- Anyone Who Affirms Universals Must Affirm God, via Proverbs 8.22-30
- Argument from Intelligibility, via Proverbs 8.22-31
- Argument from Mathematical Truth, via Proverbs 8.22-31
- Argument from Mathematics (Guillen), via Proverbs 8.22-31
- Argument from the Reality of Mathematical Infinity, via Proverbs 8.22-31
- Cumulative Case for the Deity of Christ, via Proverbs 8.22-31
- Fifth Way - Teleology, via Proverbs 8.22-31
- Hofweber Internalist Deflationism Objection Defeater, via Proverbs 8.22-31
- Mathematics Requires Christian Theism, via Proverbs 8.22-30, Proverbs 8.22-31
Concepts:
- Laws of the Universe as Witness to Design, via Proverbs 8.22-31
- Mathematical Intelligibility of Nature, via Proverbs 8.22-31
- Old Testament Christology, via Proverbs 8.22-31
- Old Testament Witness to the Deity of Christ, via Proverbs 8.22-31
- Relation (Thomist Metaphysics), via Proverbs 8.22-31
- Two Powers in Heaven, via Proverbs 8.22-31
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Why these four translations
ris3n chose ASV, WEB, KJV, and YLT for two reasons together. They are the most literal English translations available (formal-equivalence: word-for-word renderings that preserve the Hebrew and Greek grammar rather than smoothing it into modern dynamic-equivalence idiom). And they are in the public domain in the United States, which means fair-use quotation at any length requires no publisher license. Modern licensed translations (NASB95, ESV, NIV) restrict volume of quotation under their copyright terms, so they are not used at stub-level coverage here. NASB95 appears only on hand-curated rich passage hubs under Lockman Foundation's fair-use allowance.
The four:
- ASV (American Standard Version, 1901). The basis of the modern critical-text English tradition.
- WEB (World English Bible, contemporary). Public-domain revision in the ASV line, in current English.
- KJV (King James Version, 1611). Reformation-era, Textus Receptus base.
- YLT (Young's Literal Translation, Robert Young, 1862). Hyper-literal preservation of Hebrew and Greek grammar; useful for word-study work even where English reads stiff.
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