ris3n's Apologetics Codex

Passage

John 6.60

Book: John · NASB95

Immediate context (±2 verses)

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ASV

58. This is the bread which came down out of heaven: not as the fathers ate, and died; he that eateth this bread shall live for ever. 59. These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.

60. Many therefore of his disciples, when the heard this, said, This is a hard saying; who can hear it?

  1. But Jesus knowing in himself that his disciples murmured at this, said unto them, Doth this cause you to stumble? 62. What then if ye should behold the Son of man ascending where he was before? (John 6:58-62, ASV)
WEB

58. This is the bread which came down out of heaven, not as our fathers ate the manna, and died. He who eats this bread will live forever.” 59. He said these things in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.

60. Therefore many of his disciples, when they heard this, said, “This is a hard saying! Who can listen to it?”

  1. But Jesus knowing in himself that his disciples murmured at this, said to them, “Does this cause you to stumble? 62. Then what if you would see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before? (John 6:58-62, WEB)
KJV

58. This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever. 59. These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.

60. Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

  1. When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you? offend: or, scandalize, or, cause you to stumble 62. What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? (John 6:58-62, KJV)
YLT

58. this is the bread that came down out of the heaven; not as your fathers did eat the manna, and died; he who is eating this bread shall live, to the age.' 59. These things he said in a synagogue, teaching in Capernaum;

60. many, therefore, of his disciples having heard, said, 'This word is hard; who is able to hear it?'

  1. And Jesus having known in himself that his disciples are murmuring about this, said to them, 'Doth this stumble you? 62. if then ye may behold the Son of Man going up where he was before? (John 6:58-62, YLT)

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Theological reading

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Key words

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Why these four translations

ris3n chose ASV, WEB, KJV, and YLT for two reasons together. They are the most literal English translations available (formal-equivalence: word-for-word renderings that preserve the Hebrew and Greek grammar rather than smoothing it into modern dynamic-equivalence idiom). And they are in the public domain in the United States, which means fair-use quotation at any length requires no publisher license. Modern licensed translations (NASB95, ESV, NIV) restrict volume of quotation under their copyright terms, so they are not used at stub-level coverage here. NASB95 appears only on hand-curated rich passage hubs under Lockman Foundation's fair-use allowance.

The four:

  • ASV (American Standard Version, 1901). The basis of the modern critical-text English tradition.
  • WEB (World English Bible, contemporary). Public-domain revision in the ASV line, in current English.
  • KJV (King James Version, 1611). Reformation-era, Textus Receptus base.
  • YLT (Young's Literal Translation, Robert Young, 1862). Hyper-literal preservation of Hebrew and Greek grammar; useful for word-study work even where English reads stiff.

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