ris3n's Apologetics Codex

Passage

John 17.14

Book: John · ASV / WEB / KJV / YLT

Immediate context (±2 verses)

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ASV

12. While I was with them, I kept them in thy name which thou hast given me: and I guarded them, and not one of them perished, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. 13. But now I come to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they may have my joy made full in themselves.

14. I have given them thy word; and the world hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

  1. I pray not that thou shouldest take them from the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil one. 16. They are not of the world even as I am not of the world. (John 17:12-16, ASV)
WEB

12. While I was with them in the world, I kept them in your name. Those whom you have given me I have kept. None of them is lost, except the son of destruction, that the Scripture might be fulfilled. 13. But now I come to you, and I say these things in the world, that they may have my joy made full in themselves.

14. I have given them your word. The world hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

  1. I pray not that you would take them from the world, but that you would keep them from the evil one. 16. They are not of the world even as I am not of the world. (John 17:12-16, WEB)
KJV

12. While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. 13. And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.

14. I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

  1. I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. 16. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. (John 17:12-16, KJV)
YLT

12. when I was with them in the world, I was keeping them in Thy name; those whom Thou hast given to me I did guard, and none of them was destroyed, except the son of the destruction, that the Writing may be fulfilled. 13. 'And now unto Thee I come, and these things I speak in the world, that they may have my joy fulfilled in themselves;

14. I have given to them Thy word, and the world did hate them, because they are not of the world, as I am not of the world;

  1. I do not ask that Thou mayest take them out of the world, but that Thou mayest keep them out of the evil. 16. 'Of the world they are not, as I of the world am not; (John 17:12-16, YLT)

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Theological reading

Patristic / early-church-father exegesis, to be added.

Key words

Theologically-loaded Greek or Hebrew words in this verse may have entries in the lexicon. Curated to roughly 100 contested terms across the corpus, not every word; see Lexicon Roadmap.

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Why these four translations

ris3n chose ASV, WEB, KJV, and YLT for two reasons together. They are the most literal English translations available (formal-equivalence: word-for-word renderings that preserve the Hebrew and Greek grammar rather than smoothing it into modern dynamic-equivalence idiom). And they are in the public domain in the United States, which means fair-use quotation at any length requires no publisher license. Modern licensed translations (NASB95, ESV, NIV) restrict volume of quotation under their copyright terms, so they are not used at stub-level coverage here. NASB95 appears only on hand-curated rich passage hubs under Lockman Foundation's fair-use allowance.

The four:

  • ASV (American Standard Version, 1901). The basis of the modern critical-text English tradition.
  • WEB (World English Bible, contemporary). Public-domain revision in the ASV line, in current English.
  • KJV (King James Version, 1611). Reformation-era, Textus Receptus base.
  • YLT (Young's Literal Translation, Robert Young, 1862). Hyper-literal preservation of Hebrew and Greek grammar; useful for word-study work even where English reads stiff.

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