ris3n's Apologetics Codex

Passage

John 16.27

Book: John · ASV / WEB / KJV / YLT

Immediate context (±2 verses)

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ASV

25. These things have I spoken unto you in dark sayings: the hour cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in dark sayings, but shall tell you plainly of the Father. 26. In that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you;

27. for the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came forth from the Father.

  1. I came out from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go unto the Father. 29. His disciples say, Lo, now speakest thou plainly, and speakest no dark saying. (John 16:25-29, ASV)
WEB

25. I have spoken these things to you in figures of speech. But the time is coming when I will no more speak to you in figures of speech, but will tell you plainly about the Father. 26. In that day you will ask in my name; and I don’t say to you, that I will pray to the Father for you,

27. for the Father himself loves you, because you have loved me, and have believed that I came from God.

  1. I came from the Father, and have come into the world. Again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.” 29. His disciples said to him, “Behold, now you speak plainly, and speak no figures of speech. (John 16:25-29, WEB)
KJV

25. These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father. proverbs: or, parables 26. At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:

27. For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.

  1. I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father. 29. His disciples said unto him, Lo, now speakest thou plainly, and speakest no proverb. proverb: or, parable (John 16:25-29, KJV)
YLT

25. 'These things in similitudes I have spoken to you, but there cometh an hour when no more in similitudes will I speak to you, but freely of the Father, will tell you. 26. 'In that day, in my name ye will make request, and I do not say to you that I will ask the Father for you,

27. for the Father himself doth love you, because me ye have loved, and ye have believed that I from God came forth;

  1. I came forth from the Father, and have come to the world; again I leave the world, and go on unto the Father.' 29. His disciples say to him, 'Lo, now freely thou dost speak, and no similitude speakest thou; (John 16:25-29, YLT)

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Theological reading

Patristic / early-church-father exegesis, to be added.

Key words

Theologically-loaded Greek or Hebrew words in this verse may have entries in the lexicon. Curated to roughly 100 contested terms across the corpus, not every word; see Lexicon Roadmap.

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Why these four translations

ris3n chose ASV, WEB, KJV, and YLT for two reasons together. They are the most literal English translations available (formal-equivalence: word-for-word renderings that preserve the Hebrew and Greek grammar rather than smoothing it into modern dynamic-equivalence idiom). And they are in the public domain in the United States, which means fair-use quotation at any length requires no publisher license. Modern licensed translations (NASB95, ESV, NIV) restrict volume of quotation under their copyright terms, so they are not used at stub-level coverage here. NASB95 appears only on hand-curated rich passage hubs under Lockman Foundation's fair-use allowance.

The four:

  • ASV (American Standard Version, 1901). The basis of the modern critical-text English tradition.
  • WEB (World English Bible, contemporary). Public-domain revision in the ASV line, in current English.
  • KJV (King James Version, 1611). Reformation-era, Textus Receptus base.
  • YLT (Young's Literal Translation, Robert Young, 1862). Hyper-literal preservation of Hebrew and Greek grammar; useful for word-study work even where English reads stiff.

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