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Christians Behaving Badly
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"Look at all the bad Christians. The Crusades. The Inquisition. The sex abuse scandals. The pastors caught in affairs. The slave-owners quoting Bible verses. How can you believe in a religion whose followers act like that?"
This is one of the most common reasons people walk away from faith. It is not really an argument about whether God exists. It is an argument about whether Christianity works. The reasoning goes: Christianity claims to change people, the record shows that often it does not, therefore the claim must be false.
Three things make the objection strong, and a Christian who waves them off looks dishonest. The failures are real. They are recorded in their own people's records. And many of the offenders quoted the Bible while doing the harm.
But the objection misses something the Bible itself says out loud. Jesus told his followers that not everyone who calls him Lord is actually his. "By their fruits you will know them" (Matt 7:16). John writes about people who left the church and says "they went out from us, but they were not of us" (1 John 2:19). The line between someone who claims Christ and someone who follows Christ was drawn by Jesus himself, in writing, two thousand years before any modern atheist used it as a comeback.
There is also a fairness test. Are we comparing Christianity at its worst to atheism at its best, or are we comparing both at their worst? The twentieth century gives us the comparison: Soviet Russia, Maoist China, Cambodia under Pol Pot. Atheist regimes killed somewhere around one hundred million people in a single century, more than every religious war combined.
The right Christian response is honest. Yes, Christians have failed badly. Some of them were never following Christ to begin with. Some of them were and crashed hard. The standard for evaluating Christianity is what its founder taught, not the worst people who claimed his name.
In full
The atheist / skeptic / disillusioned-former-Christian meta-argument that the moral failures of Christians throughout history and in contemporary contexts, Crusades, Inquisition, witch-trials, slavery-defense by Southern theologians, anti-Semitism, sexual abuse scandals (Catholic priest abuse + Protestant pastor scandals), Westboro-Baptist-style hatred, Christian-nationalist political violence, prosperity-gospel fraud, Pat Robertson / ris3n Falwell political-moralism, anti-civil-rights opposition by Southern segregationist Christians, etc., provide decisive evidence against Christianity's truth claims or show Christianity is morally bankrupt. Distinct from the Religion Causes Violence Objection (which targets religion-as-institution and aggregate-statistical-violence claims), Christians Behaving Badly targets the individual-Christian-failure pattern and deploys it as evidence of moral or doctrinal falsity. Pervasive in popular-atheist discourse: "look at all the bad Christians; how can you believe in a religion whose followers are like that?" Often paired with Religion Causes Violence Objection in the cumulative case.
The objection's typical shape
The atheist deployment runs roughly:
- Christianity claims to be the true revelation of God + transformative-moral-power for adherents.
- Christians have committed and continue to commit egregious moral failures (named cases vary by deployment).
- If Christianity were TRUE + had the transformative-moral-power it claims, Christians would not commit these failures at the rates and severities observed.
- Therefore: Christianity is either false (the truth claim fails), OR not transformatively-effective (the moral-power claim fails), OR both.
- The atheist conclusion: don't believe; don't trust; the empirical record refutes the religion.
Specific deployment-flavors:
- Popular-atheist meme version (Reddit / Twitter / r/atheism): "Christians are the most hypocritical people I know, divorce rates same as secular; pastors-in-scandal weekly; Crusaders murdered Muslims; slave-owners quoted the Bible. Why would I trust a religion whose followers are like that?"
- Disillusioned-former-Christian deconversion narrative (the "I left because of how Christians treated me" pattern): personal injury, abusive parent, manipulative church environment, hypocritical pastor, exclusionary community, generates skeptical conclusions
- Hitchens-Dawkins-Harris academic version: catalogues historical failures (Crusades, Inquisition, Galileo, witch-trials, slavery-defense by Hodge / Thornwell / Dabney) as cumulative case
- Modern-progressive critique: Christian-nationalist political violence (Jan 6); evangelical-Trump-support; anti-LGBT exclusion; Catholic-Church abuse-scandal cover-up; prosperity-gospel exploitation
Why the objection is rhetorically strong
- Steel-manned: Christian historical failures are real. The Crusades killed people. The Inquisition tortured. Southern theologians DID defend slavery (Hodge's Slavery 1849; Thornwell; Dabney). Catholic priests abused children + the institutional cover-up was real. Some Christians DO support harmful political movements. The objection isn't invented; the data is real.
- The intuition that "true believers should LIVE different from non-believers" is widespread and Christian apologetics itself often emphasizes transformative-power claims, making the apparent-equivalence of Christian and non-Christian moral records seem to refute the apologetic.
- The personal-injury form is psychologically powerful, disillusioned former Christians have lived experience that abstract-philosophical-defenses don't easily address.
- Many Christians give bad answers ("but they're not REAL Christians!") that look like No-True-Scotsman fallacy and don't address the deeper question.
- The cumulative Hitchens-Dawkins-Harris "religion poisons everything" framing leverages CBB plus Religion Causes Violence Objection together.
The actual rebuttal
1. The genetic fallacy: adherents' failures are evidence about adherents, not about Christianity
The argument's core inferential move is: "Christians fail morally → Christianity is false / not-morally-effective." Both inferential transitions are problematic:
- Truth of a worldview is independent of how well its adherents follow it. This is the standard genetic-fallacy diagnosis. Atheists who behave badly don't refute atheism; communists who behave badly don't refute communism; Christians who behave badly don't refute Christianity. The TRUTH-VALUE of a worldview is determined by whether its claims correspond to reality, not by whether adherents live up to its standards.
- The "transformative-moral-power" claim is more nuanced than the deployment assumes. Christianity claims moral transformation IS a Christian goal, but it's a process (sanctification) not an automatic-from-conversion-effect; it's resisted by indwelling-sin (Romans 7); it's gradual + imperfect in this life with full-perfection only in eschatological resurrection (1 Cor 15; 1 John 3:2). Christianity itself predicts ongoing-moral-struggle for Christians.
2. Christianity's OWN moral standards condemn the failures
The most theologically-decisive observation: the moral standards by which the atheist condemns historical Christian failures are themselves substantially Christian-derived. (Cf. Religion Causes Violence Objection for the broader Holland / Hart / Siedentop borrowed-capital meta-defeater applied here.)
Specific case-applications:
- Crusader-violence violated Augustinian just-war theory (justified-cause + proper-authority + last-resort + proportionality + discrimination-of-combatants); the Crusader excesses (massacre of Jews in Rhineland; the sack of Constantinople 1204) were CHRISTIAN-condemned at the time by Christian leaders + theologians. The Christian standard ITSELF condemns them.
- Slavery-defense by Hodge / Thornwell / Dabney contradicted Imago Dei anthropology (Gen 1:26-27, all humans bear God's image, eliminating racial-hierarchy at the metaphysical level) + Galatians 3:28 ("there is neither Jew nor Greek... slave nor free") + the Pauline framework that Phlm 16 makes explicit ("no longer as a slave, but more than a slave, a beloved brother"). Frederick Douglass (himself Christian) explicitly distinguished "the Christianity of Christ" (true) from "the Christianity of slaveholders" (apostate). The biblical-theological resources for abolition were always there; slave-owners suppressed them; Christian abolitionists deployed them.
- Catholic-Church-abuse cover-up violated explicit Catholic doctrine (canon law against clerical immorality + the pastoral standards for shepherding souls) + violated Christ's own teaching against scandal-causing-of-little-ones (Mt 18:6, "better for him to have a great millstone hung around his neck"). The Christian moral standard ITSELF condemns the cover-up.
- Westboro-Baptist hatred violates the Sermon on the Mount's love-of-enemies command + Romans 12 + 1 John 4:8 ("God is love"), not a marginal Christian dispute but a central one.
- Christian-nationalist political-violence violates the Christ-rejected-political-violence pattern (John 18:36, "My kingdom is not of this world") + the just-war + nonviolence traditions.
The Christian apologist's response is NOT "those weren't real Christians" (No-True-Scotsman) but the more-precise: "those Christians violated the moral standards that Christianity itself proclaims; their failures are CHRISTIAN-condemnable failures." The objector who appeals to the moral wrongness of the failures is using moral standards (human-dignity, anti-slavery, anti-violence, anti-abuse) that Christianity itself substantially-supplied to Western civilization.
3. Hypocrisy IS what Christianity diagnoses
Christianity doesn't claim Christians are morally-perfect; it claims Christians are simul iustus et peccator (Luther's formulation: simultaneously justified and sinful). The doctrine of indwelling-sin (Romans 7:14-25, Paul's "what I want to do, I do not do") + Augustine's concupiscence + Reformation total-depravity all explicitly predict ongoing moral struggle in Christians.
Romans 7:14-25 (Paul's anguished autobiographical):
"For we know that the Law is spiritual, but I am of flesh, sold into bondage to sin. For what I am doing, I do not understand; for I am not practicing what I would like to do, but I am doing the very thing I hate... Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from the body of this death?"
Paul, the apostle, describes ongoing-moral-struggle in himself. Christianity has NEVER taught that conversion produces immediate-moral-perfection.
The atheist deployment that "if Christianity were true, Christians would be morally perfect" misreads Christianity. Christianity teaches:
- All humans (Christians + non-Christians) are sinners (Rom 3:23)
- Conversion is the START of a lifelong sanctification process, not the end
- Sanctification is gradual + imperfect in this life (Phil 1:6, "He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus", perfection is eschatological)
- Christians are commanded to confess sin + repent continuously (1 John 1:8-10)
The empirical observation that Christians sometimes fail is EXACTLY what Christianity predicts. The non-observation would be the puzzle (a religion whose adherents claimed moral-perfection-in-this-life would be claiming what Christianity doesn't claim).
4. The selective-comparison fallacy
The CBB deployment typically compares Christianity-at-its-worst with non-Christian-morality-at-its-best. The asymmetry is the source of rhetorical force:
- Crusade-massacres compared with secular-humanist-aspirations
- Catholic-priest-abuse compared with secular-progressive-ethics
- Slavery-defense compared with modern-anti-racism
- Anti-LGBT-Christian-rhetoric compared with progressive-affirmation
Symmetric comparison disrupts the asymmetric force:
- Crusade-massacres vs Stalin-Mao-Pol-Pot atheist-state-violence (cf. Religion Causes Violence Objection)
- Catholic-priest-abuse vs secular-institution abuse rates (Penn-State football; Hollywood-Weinstein; secular boarding schools, Penn et al. studies show comparable abuse rates across religious + secular institutions; the public-attention to Catholic abuse reflects the institutional-scale + cover-up scandal, not categorically-higher abuse rates)
- Slavery-defense by Christian theologians vs secular slavery-defenders + Christian abolitionists (Christianity contained BOTH the defense + the abolition; the abolition was overwhelmingly Christian-led, cf. Wilberforce, Quakers, MLK)
- Christian-nationalist political-violence vs secular nationalist + atheist-totalitarian political-violence (the 20th c. is the empirical experiment)
Symmetric comparison shows that Christianity's record is mixed-but-not-uniquely-bad; the failures exist across all human institutions; humans-in-power-misuse-power regardless of religious commitment.
5. Christianity has self-correction mechanisms
Every major historical Christian moral failure has been challenged by other Christians from within the tradition using the tradition's own resources. This is a structural-feature of Christianity that the CBB deployment misses:
- Crusade excesses were criticized by Christian voices at the time (the sack of Constantinople 1204 was condemned by Pope Innocent III; the Rhineland massacres of Jews 1096 were condemned by Bishop John of Speyer + others)
- Slavery was opposed by the Quakers (1670s onward) + Methodist evangelicals + Wilberforce + Anglican abolitionists + American Baptist + Methodist + Presbyterian abolitionists; the abolition was overwhelmingly Christian-led; Frederick Douglass + Sojourner Truth + Harriet Tubman explicitly Christian
- Apartheid was opposed by Christian leaders (Tutu, Kairos Document 1985) + the World Council of Churches; the post-apartheid Truth-and-Reconciliation Commission was Tutu-led
- Civil rights movement in America was explicitly Christian-led (MLK, John Lewis, the Black Church); opposed by some-Southern-Christians, championed by other-Southern-Christians + Black-church-tradition
- Catholic-priest-abuse cover-up has been exposed largely by Catholic whistleblowers + Catholic press (National Catholic Reporter); Pope Francis's reform efforts; survivor-advocacy from within-Catholic context
- Sexual abuse in Protestant churches (SBC scandal 2019+) has been exposed by Christian journalists (the Houston Chronicle's "Abuse of Faith" investigation) + Christian survivor-advocates
Christianity's self-correcting capacity is itself evidence of the tradition's moral resources. A tradition with no self-correction mechanism would be unable to produce abolition movements, civil-rights movements, anti-apartheid movements, or abuse-exposure journalism. Christianity has produced all of these from within itself.
The atheist deployment that "Christians have failed morally" should be paired with the question: WHO has CHALLENGED those failures? The answer is overwhelmingly: other Christians, deploying Christian moral resources.
Cross-references to related Christian-philosophical / hermeneutical resources
- Christian thinkers: Frederick Douglass (Narrative 1845; "the Christianity of Christ" framework); William Wilberforce (A Practical View 1797); Martin Luther King Jr. (Stride Toward Freedom 1958; Letter from Birmingham Jail 1963); Tom Holland (Dominion 2019); David Bentley Hart (Atheist Delusions 2009); Tim Keller (The Reason for God 2008 ch. 4 "The Church Is Responsible for So Much Injustice"); Lee Strobel (The Case for Faith 2000); C.S. Lewis (Mere Christianity III.10 on Christian morality and Christian failures).
- Patristic anchors: Augustine (Confessions + De Civ. Dei 21 + Letter 138, extensive treatment of Christian-moral-life as ongoing struggle, not perfect-from-conversion); Origen + Chrysostom (extensive pastoral treatments of Christian-moral-failure + repentance).
- Reformation: Luther (simul iustus et peccator doctrine, the foundational Reformation framework for understanding ongoing-Christian-sinfulness); Calvin (Institutes 3.6-10 on Christian life + sanctification as gradual + imperfect-in-this-life).
- Modern apologetic: Tim Keller's "the church is full of hypocrites" pastoral-apologetic frame in The Reason for God 2008 ch. 4 is the standard contemporary engagement; Lee Strobel similarly; D.A. Carson + N.T. Wright have engaged the historical-Christian-failure question in multiple works.
Connection to broader apologetic context
This objection forms a cluster with Religion Causes Violence Objection (institutional-scale-violence), together they form the New Atheist meta-argument from-Christian-historical-failure. The cluster's structure:
- Religion Causes Violence = aggregate institutional-scale claim
- Christians Behaving Badly = individual-moral-failure pattern
- Both target Christianity's claim to be transformative-moral-truth
- Both deploy historical examples (Crusades, Inquisition, slavery-defense, Catholic-abuse, etc.)
The Christian response strategy is consistent across the cluster:
- Distinguish doctrine from adherents' failures
- Acknowledge historical failures honestly
- Note Christianity's OWN condemnation of those failures (using Christian moral standards)
- Deploy the symmetric comparison (vs secular failures)
- Note Christianity's self-correction mechanisms (abolition, civil rights, abuse-exposure)
- Deploy the borrowed-capital meta-defeater (atheist's moral standards are Christian-derived; Holland Dominion, Hart Atheist Delusions)
For pastoral engagement (vs polemical opponent): the objection often masks personal-experience-of-religious-harm. The pastoral response acknowledges the personal pain reality without treating it as decisive evidence: "What hurt you was real. What's true is a separate question. Christianity's TRUTH and Christians' BEHAVIOR are different questions, and both deserve serious engagement." (Same pastoral frame as Religion-Causes-Violence build.)
See also
- Hypocrisy, search-landing page on the broader "Christians are hypocrites" framing
- Crusades, search-landing page on the specific Crusades polemic
- Inquisition, search-landing page on the specific Inquisition polemic
- Christians Behaving Badly Defeater, debate-prep syllogism form
- Atheism, master atheist-objections hub
- New Atheism, Hitchens / Dawkins / Harris / Dennett movement
- Religion Causes Violence Objection, companion meta-argument concept (institutional scale)
- The Crusades, specific historical-case concept hub
- Atheist Moral Realism Objection, meta-grounding (the moral-standards the objector deploys)
- Bible Scientific Errors Objection, adjacent New-Atheist objection-cluster
- Just War Theory, Christian peace-and-violence framework
- Tom Holland, Dominion (2019) author; secular-historical anchor for Christianity's civilizational fruits
- David Bentley Hart, Atheist Delusions + That All Shall Be Saved
- Frederick Douglass, "Christianity of Christ" framework
- Wilberforce, Christian abolition leadership
- MLK, Christian civil-rights leadership
- Tim Keller, pastoral-apologetic engagement
- Imago Dei, anthropological doctrine grounding the moral standards used to condemn Christian failures
- Total Depravity, Reformed doctrine that explicitly predicts ongoing Christian moral failure