Argument
Argument from Twin Asymmetries
Intro
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Two big things in life only run one way. Time moves forward: things break, get messy, and decay. Forgiveness moves from the person who was hurt to the person who hurt them, never the other way around. You cannot make someone forgive you, and you cannot un-break a glass. Both rules are deep, and both feel impossible to reverse from inside the world we live in.
Now look at one event in history. From the cross, Jesus says "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do" while He is being killed by the very people He is forgiving. That is forgiveness running backwards against its normal direction. Three days later, He rises from the dead. That is life running backwards against decay. One Person, in one moment, breaks both of the deepest one-way rules in reality. Naturalism does not predict that. Christianity does.
In full
Two of the deepest asymmetries in reality, the thermodynamic arrow of time (the past is fixed, the future is open; entropy increases monotonically; life decays into death) and the moral arrow of forgiveness (forgiveness flows only forward, from the wronged to the wrongdoer; it cannot be demanded backwards or owed), both run in one direction and only one direction. Both are broken from the outside by a single Person and a single event: Christ, at the Cross-and-Resurrection. "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do" (Lk 23:34) runs forgiveness backwards onto the killers in the act of being killed by them, forgiveness reversed against its asymmetry. The Resurrection runs life backwards against entropy, corruption sown, incorruption raised (1 Cor 15:42-44). One Person, one event, simultaneously breaks both asymmetries. This is not what naturalism, deism, or any other worldview predicts; it is exactly what Christology predicts. This page is structured as debate prep, each premise carries a second-order positive case, anticipated objections, rebuttals, a live-cite kit, and tactical notes.
Argument structure
| # | Premise |
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| P1 | Reality exhibits a deep thermodynamic / phenomenological time-asymmetry: the past is fixed and the future open; entropy increases in closed systems; life decays into death. The arrow runs in one direction. See Argument from Irrevocability for the transcendental case. |
| P2 | Moral phenomenology exhibits a deep forgiveness-asymmetry: forgiveness flows from the wronged to the wrongdoer, not the reverse; it cannot be demanded of the wronged or owed to the wrongdoer; the act of forgiving runs unilaterally. The asymmetry is universal across moral traditions. |
| P3 | The two asymmetries are structurally isomorphic: both are one-directional, both cannot be broken from within the system, both define the inside-of-history that creatures inhabit. They are independent, the time-asymmetry is grounded in physics, the forgiveness-asymmetry in moral phenomenology, but they share the same shape. |
| P4 | The Cross-and-Resurrection is the unique event in which both asymmetries are broken simultaneously by a single Person: forgiveness is run backwards onto the killers in the moment of being killed by them ([[Luke 23.34 |
| P5 | On naturalism, neither asymmetry is breakable; the alleged event is impossible. On generic theism (deism, Islam, theistic non-Christian traditions), one or the other may be addressed but not both at once at a single locus. Only Christianity offers a Person whose work breaks both asymmetries at the same point in space-time. |
| C | Therefore, the simultaneous breaking of the twin asymmetries at the Cross-and-Resurrection is evidence specifically for the truth of Christianity, and the asymmetry-pairing is itself a striking structural feature of the gospel that no rival worldview matches. |
Form
Convergence-shaped with a Christological landing. P1 and P2 establish two independent asymmetries (one physical, one moral). P3 identifies their structural isomorphism. P4 identifies the unique historical event in which both are broken. P5 prices rival worldviews. The inference at C is abductive: among live worldview options, Christianity uniquely predicts the convergence, that there is one event that breaks both asymmetries at one locus. Soundness is contemporary: the time-asymmetry literature is well-established; the forgiveness-asymmetry phenomenology is well-established (Arendt, Jankélévitch, Volf, Derrida). The cross-domain twin-breaking framing is, to the maintainer's knowledge, not in the published literature as a stand-alone named theistic argument (2026-05-11).
P1, The time-asymmetry is real and unbreakable from within the system
Affirmative case
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The second law of thermodynamics is the firmest law in physics. Eddington famously wrote: "If your theory is found to be against the second law of thermodynamics I can give you no hope; there is nothing for it but to collapse in deepest humiliation" (The Nature of the Physical World, 1928, Ch. 4). Boltzmann's H-theorem (1872), the rigorous statistical-mechanical foundation, and Penrose's Road to Reality (2004) all converge: entropy increases monotonically in closed systems. The arrow of time is not a curiosity; it is the spine of physics.
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The phenomenological time-asymmetry is universal. See Argument from Irrevocability for the transcendental case from the universal human experience of past-fixity vs future-openness, the cross-cultural impossibility of changing what has been done; the asymmetry of memory and anticipation; the grief structure; the universal moral-juridical framework that punishes past acts but contracts on future ones.
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Death is the asymmetry's terminal expression. Biologically, decay-into-death is the local instantiation of entropy increase. Every organism is a transient island of low-entropy order surrounded by the universal trend toward maximum entropy. Death is what time-asymmetry does to creatures.
Anticipated objections
- "At the most fundamental level (CPT-invariant physics), time has no arrow; the arrow is statistical, not fundamental."
- "The arrow could in principle reverse at large scales (Boltzmann brains; Poincaré recurrence; thermal-death-and-revival cosmologies)."
- "Cryonics, longevity research, and far-future technological civilizations may eventually break the asymmetry from within. Naturalism predicts the possibility; theism doesn't have a monopoly."
Rebuttals
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CPT-invariance at the micro-level does not give us a reversed macroscale. Even granting CPT-invariance, the initial conditions of the universe (extraordinarily low entropy at the Big Bang; the Past Hypothesis, Albert Time and Chance 2000) set the arrow in a way that no within-system process reverses. The asymmetry is real at every scale we live at; that is the asymmetry the argument requires.
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Boltzmann brains and Poincaré recurrence are theoretical curiosities, not breakings of the asymmetry from within. Both scenarios involve waiting astronomical timescales, they do not represent an agent inside history reversing the arrow. The argument is about the asymmetry that defines creaturely existence, not exotic cosmological cycles.
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Far-future technology may slow death; it does not run entropy backwards. Cryonics preserves; it does not revive what has actually died. No technology, conceivable or actual, runs the Second Law backwards on a closed system. Naturalism predicts the asymmetry holds; that is precisely the point. The argument is not "no one will ever extend lifespan"; it is "no internal agent ever breaks the asymmetry."
Live-cite kit
- Scholarly: Eddington, Nature of the Physical World (1928) Ch. 4; Penrose, Road to Reality (2004); David Albert, Time and Chance (2000), the Past Hypothesis; Sean Carroll, From Eternity to Here (2010), accessible exposition.
- Aphorism: "The Second Law is the spine of physics; death is its local face."
Tactical notes
- Don't get pulled into B-theory of time debates live. The argument runs on the thermodynamic / phenomenological asymmetry, which is uncontested whether you're an A-theorist or B-theorist.
- Force-commit move: "Has any internal agent in the history of the universe reversed entropy on a closed system?"
P2, The forgiveness-asymmetry is real and unbreakable from within
Affirmative case
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Forgiveness flows in one direction only. Hannah Arendt (The Human Condition, 1958, §33) frames forgiveness as the only human power that can interrupt the irreversibility of action: the wronged person can release the wrongdoer from the consequence, but the wrongdoer cannot "demand" forgiveness or "owe" themselves forgiveness. Vladimir Jankélévitch (Forgiveness, 1967) emphasizes the gratuitousness, forgiveness is gift, not transaction. Volf (Exclusion and Embrace, 1996) develops the asymmetry theologically.
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The asymmetry is universal across moral traditions. Confucian shu (恕, reciprocal-empathy-as-forgiveness) is gift-from-superior-to-inferior. Jewish selichah / mechilah / kaparah (the three-tier model in Mishneh Torah Hilchot Teshuvah) flows from victim-to-perpetrator after teshuvah. Islamic afw and ghafara flow from God or wronged-party. Buddhist kṣānti (forbearance) is the wronged-party's release. The structural asymmetry, wronged-to-wrongdoer, not the reverse, is cross-cultural and not a Christian invention.
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Derrida's "pure forgiveness" sharpens the point. Jacques Derrida ("On Forgiveness," 2001) argued that pure forgiveness, forgiveness of the unforgivable, given without precondition, is the only forgiveness that is forgiveness; everything else collapses into transaction. His paradox: pure forgiveness is structurally impossible from inside the moral order, yet the moral order demands it. Derrida did not draw the theistic conclusion; the conclusion is available.
Anticipated objections
- "Forgiveness is just instrumental conflict-resolution machinery; the 'asymmetry' is incidental."
- "Mutual forgiveness exists (both parties forgive each other in a quarrel); the asymmetry is not absolute."
- "You can't ground a theistic argument on a feature of human psychology, it's just how we evolved to resolve in-group conflict."
Rebuttals
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Instrumental conflict-resolution doesn't capture the phenomenology of pure forgiveness. Forgiveness of the dead, forgiveness of those who never repent, forgiveness that delivers no future benefit to the forgiver, these instances are well-documented (Volf, Exclusion and Embrace, Part II; Simon Wiesenthal, The Sunflower, 1969, the iconic case study). Instrumental theories cannot ground these; the phenomenon overshoots its evolutionary "function."
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Mutual forgiveness is two unilateral acts, not one symmetric act. When A forgives B and B forgives A in a quarrel, that is two separate exercises of the asymmetric act, each from-wronged-to-wrongdoer. The asymmetry is preserved; it is just instantiated twice.
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"It's just psychology" doesn't address the structure. The argument grants that humans experience the forgiveness-asymmetry; the question is what grounds the experience. The Christian answer (humans bear the imago Dei of a Forgiving God; cf. Imago Dei, Eph 4:32) explains both the universality and the specific structural shape. The naturalist who reduces to "evolved psychology" still has to explain why the evolved asymmetry happens to mirror the thermodynamic asymmetry (see P3), which makes the convergence the explanandum, not the psychology.
Live-cite kit
- Scripture: Lk 23:34; Mt 6:14-15; Eph 4:32 (Ephesians 4:32); Col 3:13.
- Scholarly: Arendt, The Human Condition (1958) §33; Jankélévitch, Forgiveness (1967); Volf, Exclusion and Embrace (1996); Derrida, "On Forgiveness" (2001); Wiesenthal, The Sunflower (1969).
- Aphorism: "Forgiveness, like time, runs one way."
Tactical notes
- Use Derrida. A secular continental philosopher arguing that pure forgiveness is structurally impossible from within the moral order is the move that unsettles atheists who think forgiveness is a casual evolved feature.
- Force-commit move: "Can a wrongdoer demand forgiveness as a right? If no, why not? What feature of moral reality enforces the asymmetry?"
P3, The two asymmetries are structurally isomorphic
Affirmative case
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Same structural shape, different domains. Both asymmetries run in one direction. Both define inside-of-history existence (creatures live inside the unidirectional time-arrow and inside the unidirectional forgiveness-arrow). Both can be analyzed in the same formal way: an irreversible operation O takes state A to state B, and no internal process maps B back to A. For time, O is entropy-increase / past-fixation. For forgiveness, O is the wronging-event. In both, the system cannot, from within, undo what has been done.
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The asymmetries are independent. The time-asymmetry is grounded in statistical mechanics + cosmic initial conditions. The forgiveness-asymmetry is grounded in moral phenomenology. They have no common cause that would predict their structural identity. (Cf. P3 of Argument from the Observer-Demand Convergence for the same cross-domain-independence move applied to a different pair.)
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The intuition that they belong together is itself a datum. Arendt explicitly pairs forgiveness with time-irreversibility in The Human Condition §33, forgiveness is named as the only response to the irreversibility of action. Arendt did not draw the theistic conclusion, but the pairing is hers, not the argument's invention. The structural isomorphism has been seen for half a century.
Anticipated objections
- "Verbal pairing, not structural pairing, 'asymmetry' is a loose family-resemblance term."
- "The pairing is real but explained by the brain's general-purpose 'irreversibility-detector', we evolved to track all irreversibilities the same way."
Rebuttals
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The pairing survives technical specification. Both asymmetries can be formalized as one-directional irreversibility relations on appropriate state spaces, with no internal mapping back. This is not loose family-resemblance; it is a precise structural identity. (Note: Arendt's analysis treats them as structurally identical, not loosely analogous, see The Human Condition §33.)
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A general-purpose irreversibility-tracker doesn't explain why the moral domain happens to share its formal structure with the thermodynamic domain. Even granting an evolved irreversibility-tracking module, the fact that moral reality has a one-way asymmetry to be tracked is the explanandum. The naturalist account explains the recognition, not the structural feature being recognized.
Live-cite kit
- Scholarly: Arendt, The Human Condition (1958) §33, the canonical pairing; Volf, Exclusion and Embrace (1996), theological extension.
- Aphorism: "Time and forgiveness both run one way. Arendt saw the pairing in 1958. The argument is what to do with it."
P4, The Cross-and-Resurrection breaks both asymmetries at one event
Affirmative case
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Lk 23:34 runs forgiveness backwards onto the killers in the act of being killed. "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do." The grammar is present-imperative; the speaker is being crucified by the addressees of the request. This is not retrospective forgiveness offered after-the-fact; it is forgiveness extended into the killing act itself by the One being killed. The forgiveness-asymmetry is here run in a direction it cannot run from within the moral order: the Victim forgives the killers while they are still doing the killing. The textual placement (in Luke's passion narrative, between mockery and theft-promise) is deliberate; Luke's structural emphasis on Christ's anomalous forgiveness is unmistakable (cf. F. F. Bruce, The Gospel of Luke, 1990; N. T. Wright, Luke for Everyone, 2001).
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The Resurrection runs life backwards against entropy. "It is sown a perishable body, it is raised an imperishable body" (1 Cor 15:42-44, 1 Corinthians 15.42-44). The Resurrection is not resuscitation (return-to-the-previous-perishable-state); it is incorruption raised from corruption, the asymmetry between decay and life reversed at a single point. Pauline argument in 1 Cor 15 is built precisely on this reversal as the centerpiece of Christian metaphysics: "the last enemy to be destroyed is death" (v. 26).
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One Person, one event, both reversals. The Cross and the Resurrection are theologically inseparable (Rom 4:25; 1 Cor 15:3-4). The same Person who runs forgiveness backwards from the cross runs life backwards from the tomb. No other religious or philosophical tradition pairs these two reversals at a single Person-and-event. The convergence is Christological-specific.
Anticipated objections
- "The Resurrection is a historical claim and may not have happened. You can't ground an argument on a contested event."
- "Even granting the Resurrection, the 'asymmetry-breaking' framing is post-hoc Christian theology pasted onto the events."
- "Other religious traditions have analogous reversals, Lazarus-like raisings; Krishna's intervention in time; Buddhist nirvana as entropy-transcendence."
Rebuttals
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The argument from Twin Asymmetries operates alongside the case for the historicity of the Resurrection, not as a substitute. It says: if the Cross-and-Resurrection happened as Christianity claims, then it has the structural feature of breaking both asymmetries at one event, which is itself a striking feature of Christianity's truth claim. For the historicity case, see Argument from the Resurrection (minimal-facts case; Habermas-Licona). The convergence argument adds: even an opponent who is undecided about historicity should grant that the structure of the Christian claim is structurally distinctive in this way.
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"Post-hoc" cuts both ways, and the cross-asymmetry pairing is built into the text, not added later. Luke 23:34 + 1 Cor 15:42-44 are first-century texts. The reading of them as breaking-the-two-asymmetries was not pasted on; the texts assert exactly these reversals. Paul's argument in 1 Cor 15 is explicitly: a new ontological order has appeared that runs the corruption / decay asymmetry backwards. Luke's passion narrative is explicitly: the Victim forgives the killers. The exegetical reading is straightforward, not retrofit.
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Analogous reversals in other traditions are not paired and not at one event. Lazarus is raised by Jesus, not by Lazarus; the asymmetry-breaking is in Christ's act, not a parallel tradition. Krishna's interventions in the Bhagavad Gita address ethical-decisional asymmetries, not entropy. Nirvana is transcendence of samsara, not reversal of it; nirvana doesn't run entropy backwards on a corpse. No other tradition pairs forgiveness-asymmetry-breaking with entropy-asymmetry-breaking at one Person and one event. The Christological uniqueness is the datum.
Live-cite kit
- Scripture: Luke 23:34 ("Father, forgive them"); 1 Corinthians 15.42-44; 1 Corinthians 15.20; Romans 6:4-5; Acts 2:24.
- Scholarly: Bruce, The Gospel of Luke (1990); N. T. Wright, The Resurrection of the Son of God (2003), historicity + theology; Habermas & Licona, The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus (2004); Pannenberg, Jesus, God and Man (1968), the Resurrection as historical and theological keystone.
- Aphorism: "Forgiveness backwards onto the killers. Life backwards out of the tomb. One Person, one weekend, both arrows reversed."
Tactical notes
- Lead with Lk 23:34, not the Resurrection. The forgiveness-asymmetry-breaking is doctrinally less contested than the empty tomb; opening there sets the structural pattern before the historicity battle.
- Defer historicity to Argument from the Resurrection. This argument is structural, not evidential; don't try to do both jobs at once.
- Force-commit move: "Name one other event in human history in which both the time-asymmetry and the forgiveness-asymmetry are reversed at one Person and one moment."
P5, Only Christianity offers this pairing
Affirmative case
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Naturalism: both asymmetries hold. No event of breaking ever occurs. Naturalism's prediction is that neither asymmetry is broken; the Cross-and-Resurrection is impossible. The naturalist is committed to denying the historicity of the Resurrection AND denying that Lk 23:34 records an act with the structural feature claimed. Both denials are costly.
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Deism: God exists but does not act in history. No event of breaking. Deistic theism predicts a Creator who establishes the asymmetries but does not enter the system to break them. The Cross is incompatible with deism.
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Islam: forgiveness from Allah; no Cross. Islam affirms divine forgiveness (Allah is Al-Ghaffar, Ar-Rahman) but rejects the Crucifixion (Quran 4:157, "they killed him not, nor crucified him"). The forgiveness-asymmetry can be broken by Allah's divine prerogative, but not at a particular Person's death, and the entropy-asymmetry is not even addressed at the level of a singular historical event. The pairing-at-one-Person feature is absent.
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Judaism: messianic future-hope, not realized event. Rabbinic Judaism affirms divine forgiveness and resurrection-of-the-dead at the eschaton, but does not locate the breaking of either asymmetry at a singular historical Person-and-event. The Christian claim is that this has already occurred at one locus.
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Eastern traditions: transcendence, not reversal. Buddhist and Hindu schemes transcend the asymmetries via liberation (nirvana, moksha), not by reversing them at a historical event. The structural shape is different.
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Therefore: the convergence on one Person, one event, both asymmetries broken is Christian-specific.
Anticipated objections
- "This is Christian chauvinism, you've constructed the convergence to fit Christianity."
- "What about other resurrection-claim religions (Osiris, Dionysus, Mithras)?"
Rebuttals
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The argument's specificity is the data, not a stipulation. The two asymmetries are independently identified (P1, P2, Eddington-Penrose-Albert on one side, Arendt-Jankélévitch-Volf-Derrida on the other). The Christological pairing is then observed, not stipulated. If another religion offered the same pairing, the argument would generalize; no other religion does.
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Comparative-religion scholarship has dispatched the Mystery-Religion parallels. The alleged parallels (Osiris, Dionysus, Mithras) do not have the structural features claimed: they are cyclical-vegetation cycles, not singular historical events; they do not pair forgiveness-asymmetry-breaking with entropy-asymmetry-breaking; they post-date Christianity in the form actually parallel. See N. T. Wright, The Resurrection of the Son of God (2003), Ch. 2; Bruce Metzger, "Methodology in the Study of the Mystery Religions" (1955). The mystery-religion parallel argument died in the academic literature decades ago.
Live-cite kit
- Scholarly: N. T. Wright, The Resurrection of the Son of God (2003); Metzger, "Methodology in the Study of the Mystery Religions" (1955); Larry Hurtado, Lord Jesus Christ (2003), Christological devotion as historically distinctive.
- Aphorism: "Other traditions offer transcendence of the asymmetries, or hope of future-breaking, or impersonal cycles. Christianity offers the breaking of both at one Person, one weekend, in datable history."
Conclusion
The simultaneous breaking of the time-asymmetry and the forgiveness-asymmetry at the Cross-and-Resurrection is evidence specifically for the truth of Christianity. The convergence is not a casual analogy; it is the structural shape of the gospel itself. No naturalistic worldview predicts the breaking. No other religious worldview pairs the two breakings at one Person and one event. The argument does not stand alone, it operates alongside the historicity case for the Resurrection (Argument from the Resurrection) and the cumulative case for Christian theism (Cumulative Case for Christian Theism), but it contributes a distinctive structural piece: the gospel's claim is precisely what we would expect if the deepest asymmetries of physics and morals were both grounded in God and broken by Christ.
Master objections to the argument as a whole
- "You're privileging the structural reading; first-century writers didn't think in 'asymmetry-breaking' terms.", They didn't use the modern formal vocabulary, but they unmistakably described the events as the breaking of death (1 Cor 15) and the gratuitous unconditional forgiveness of killers (Lk 23:34). The structural reading reflects the texts, not retrofit.
- "Convergence arguments are speculative.", They are abductive, not deductive. They contribute to a cumulative case; they do not pretend to deductive force on their own. See Ris3n Arguments for the methodological framing.
- "The argument depends on the Resurrection being historical.", Yes, in part. But the forgiveness-asymmetry-breaking half is exegetical (Lk 23:34), not historicity-dependent. And the structural shape of the Christian claim is itself a feature worth noting even before historicity is settled.
Tactical opening / closing
Opening line: "Two of the deepest asymmetries in reality both run one way. Both are broken by one Man, on one weekend, in datable history. That is either the strangest coincidence in the history of ideas or it is the data fitting the Christian claim."
Closing landing strip: "You don't have to accept the argument from the Cross alone. But notice what kind of claim Christianity is making: forgiveness backwards onto the killers, life backwards out of the tomb, paired at a single Person. No other worldview is even trying to make this claim. That, by itself, is data."
Connection to Scripture
- Luke 23:34, forgiveness backwards onto the killers (the asymmetry-breaking-from-the-Cross).
- 1 Corinthians 15.42-44, incorruption raised from corruption (the asymmetry-breaking-from-the-tomb).
- 1 Corinthians 15.20, Christ as firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.
- Romans 6:4-5, buried with him, raised with him; the eschatological asymmetry-breaking extended to the believer.
- Romans 4:25, delivered for our trespasses, raised for our justification (the Cross-Resurrection coupling).
- Acts 2.24, "it was impossible for him to be held by death."
Patristic / scholarly note
Classical / patristic / medieval:
- Athanasius, On the Incarnation §§20-32, the Resurrection as the reversal of corruption.
- Augustine, City of God XIV.13-15, the asymmetry between the Fall and redemption; felix culpa in seminal form.
- Aquinas, Summa Theologiae III q.50-56, the death and resurrection of Christ as a unitary saving event.
- Anselm, Cur Deus Homo (1098), the necessity that the asymmetry-breaking be by God-in-flesh.
Modern:
- Karl Barth, Church Dogmatics IV.1 §59, the Cross as the asymmetry-breaking judgment.
- Wolfhart Pannenberg, Jesus, God and Man (1968), the Resurrection as historical and metaphysical keystone.
- Jürgen Moltmann, The Crucified God (1972), the Cross as breaking the time-asymmetry of suffering.
- N. T. Wright, The Resurrection of the Son of God (2003), historical case + theological synthesis.
- Miroslav Volf, Exclusion and Embrace (1996), the forgiveness-asymmetry, theologically developed.
- Hannah Arendt, The Human Condition (1958) §33, the pairing of forgiveness with the irreversibility of action.
See also
- Ris3n Arguments, master hub for convergence arguments
- Argument from Irrevocability, Nexus 2's time-asymmetry half, free-standing
- Argument from the Resurrection, historicity case
- Argument from the Demand to Be Witnessed, sister fresh-natural-theology argument
- Penal Substitutionary Atonement, the doctrinal hub for atonement
- Atonement Theory Spread, the larger doctrinal cluster
- Biblical Forgiveness, biblical-theology hub for forgiveness
- Imago Dei, humans as image of the Forgiving God
- Arguments, master index
- Cumulative Case for Christian Theism