# Proverbs 8.27 **Book:** [Proverbs](/codex/proverbs/) · NASB95 ## Immediate context (±2 verses) **ASV** ([ASV](/codex/asv/)) > 25. Before the mountains were settled, Before the hills was I brought forth; 26. While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, Nor the beginning of the dust of the world. > > **27. When he established the heavens, I was there: When he set a circle upon the face of the deep,** > > 28. When he made firm the skies above, When the fountains of the deep became strong, 29. When he gave to the sea its bound, That the waters should not transgress his commandment, When he marked out the foundations of the earth; (Proverbs 8:25-29, ASV) **WEB** ([WEB](/codex/web/)) > 25. Before the mountains were settled in place, before the hills, I was born; 26. while as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the beginning of the dust of the world. > > **27. When he established the heavens, I was there; when he set a circle on the surface of the deep,** > > 28. when he established the clouds above, when the springs of the deep became strong, 29. when he gave to the sea its boundary, that the waters should not violate his commandment, when he marked out the foundations of the earth; (Proverbs 8:25-29, WEB) **KJV** ([KJV](/codex/kjv/)) > 25. Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth: 26. While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world. fields: or, open places the highest: or, the chief part > > **27. When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth: a compass: or, a circle** > > 28. When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep: 29. When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth: (Proverbs 8:25-29, KJV) **YLT** ([YLT](/codex/ylt/)) > 25. Before mountains were sunk, Before heights, I was brought forth. 26. While He had not made the earth, and out-places, And the top of the dusts of the world. > > **27. In His preparing the heavens I [am] there, In His decreeing a circle on the face of the deep,** > > 28. In His strengthening clouds above, In His making strong fountains of the deep, 29. In His setting for the sea its limit, And the waters transgress not His command, In His decreeing the foundations of earth, (Proverbs 8:25-29, YLT) ## Setting - **Speaker:** _TBD_ - **Audience:** _TBD_ - **Location:** _TBD_ - **Time period:** _TBD_ ## Theological reading _Patristic / early-church-father exegesis, to be added._ ## Key words _Theologically-loaded Greek or Hebrew words in this verse may have entries in the lexicon. Curated to roughly 100 contested terms across the corpus, not every word._ - None of the words in this verse has its own lexicon entry yet. ## Quoted in **Arguments and defeaters:** - [Anyone Who Affirms Universals Must Affirm God](/codex/anyone-who-affirms-universals-must-affirm-god/), via [Proverbs 8.22-30](/codex/proverbs-8-22-30/) - [Argument from Intelligibility](/codex/argument-from-intelligibility/), via [Proverbs 8.22-31](/codex/proverbs-8-22-31/) - [Argument from Mathematical Truth](/codex/argument-from-mathematical-truth/), via [Proverbs 8.22-31](/codex/proverbs-8-22-31/) - [Argument from Mathematics (Guillen)](/codex/argument-from-mathematics-guillen/), via [Proverbs 8.22-31](/codex/proverbs-8-22-31/) - [Argument from the Reality of Mathematical Infinity](/codex/argument-from-the-reality-of-mathematical-infinity/), via [Proverbs 8.22-31](/codex/proverbs-8-22-31/) - [Cumulative Case for the Deity of Christ](/codex/cumulative-case-for-the-deity-of-christ/), via [Proverbs 8.22-31](/codex/proverbs-8-22-31/) - [Fifth Way - Teleology](/codex/fifth-way-teleology/), via [Proverbs 8.22-31](/codex/proverbs-8-22-31/) - [Hofweber Internalist Deflationism Objection Defeater](/codex/hofweber-internalist-deflationism-objection-defeater/), via [Proverbs 8.22-31](/codex/proverbs-8-22-31/) - [Mathematics Requires Christian Theism](/codex/mathematics-requires-christian-theism/), via [Proverbs 8.22-30](/codex/proverbs-8-22-30/), [Proverbs 8.22-31](/codex/proverbs-8-22-31/) - [Who Created God Objection Defeater](/codex/who-created-god-objection-defeater/) **Concepts:** - [Laws of the Universe as Witness to Design](/codex/laws-of-the-universe-as-witness-to-design/), via [Proverbs 8.22-31](/codex/proverbs-8-22-31/) - [Mathematical Intelligibility of Nature](/codex/mathematical-intelligibility-of-nature/), via [Proverbs 8.22-31](/codex/proverbs-8-22-31/) - [Old Testament Christology](/codex/old-testament-christology/), via [Proverbs 8.22-31](/codex/proverbs-8-22-31/) - [Old Testament Witness to the Deity of Christ](/codex/old-testament-witness-to-the-deity-of-christ/), via [Proverbs 8.22-31](/codex/proverbs-8-22-31/) - [Relation (Thomist Metaphysics)](/codex/relation-thomist-metaphysics/), via [Proverbs 8.22-31](/codex/proverbs-8-22-31/) - [Two Powers in Heaven](/codex/two-powers-in-heaven/), via [Proverbs 8.22-31](/codex/proverbs-8-22-31/) ## Notes _Your annotations._ ## Why these four translations ris3n chose ASV, WEB, KJV, and YLT for two reasons together. They are the **most literal English translations available** (formal-equivalence: word-for-word renderings that preserve the Hebrew and Greek grammar rather than smoothing it into modern dynamic-equivalence idiom). And they are in the **public domain in the United States**, which means fair-use quotation at any length requires no publisher license. Modern licensed translations (NASB95, ESV, NIV) restrict volume of quotation under their copyright terms, so they are not used at stub-level coverage here. NASB95 appears only on hand-curated rich passage hubs under Lockman Foundation's fair-use allowance. The four: - **[ASV](/codex/asv/)** (American Standard Version, 1901). The basis of the modern critical-text English tradition. - **[WEB](/codex/web/)** (World English Bible, contemporary). Public-domain revision in the ASV line, in current English. - **[KJV](/codex/kjv/)** (King James Version, 1611). Reformation-era, Textus Receptus base. - **[YLT](/codex/ylt/)** (Young's Literal Translation, Robert Young, 1862). Hyper-literal preservation of Hebrew and Greek grammar; useful for word-study work even where English reads stiff. See [Bibles](/codex/bibles/) for the full per-translation history, translators, textual basis, strengths, and weaknesses.