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ris3n   07-28-2025, 01:25 AM
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Some atheists have said, “Jesus was an illegitimate child,” (in more derogatory words but...) meaning they think He was born illegitimately. That’s not just offensive, it’s a claim that's illegitimate itself.

Let’s break it down...

What Scripture Actually Says
📖 Matthew 1:18-20Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: when His mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together she was found to be pregnant by the Holy Spirit. And her husband Joseph, since he was a righteous man and did not want to disgrace her, planned to send her away secretly.
Mary was not sleeping around. She was betrothed to Joseph, which was a legally binding covenant in Jewish law. Think of it like engagement, but with the legal seriousness of marriage. Breaking it required a formal divorce.
📖 Luke 1:35The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; for that reason also the holy Child will be called the Son of God.
📖 Luke 3:22You are My beloved Son, in You I am well pleased.
The Bible does not say Jesus was conceived through human interaction. It says God Himself, by the Holy Spirit, caused the conception. If that is true, then He was not fatherless. He had the most legitimate Father there is.

Let’s Think This Through
Calling Jesus an “illegitimate child” assumes there is a moral standard that defines legitimacy. But where does that standard come from? If morality and family structure mean anything, then there must be a higher Lawgiver who defines it. And that Lawgiver would be God.
So if someone uses that term to shame Jesus, they are actually borrowing from the very moral structure that only makes sense if God exists. That is like standing on the roof and denying gravity while refusing to come down.

Quick Logic Check
  • Claim: An “illegitimate child” is someone born without recognized legal or moral parentage.
  • Fact: Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit, not through immorality.
  • Fact: God claimed Jesus as His Son during His baptism and transfiguration.
    📖 Matthew 3:17And behold, a voice from the heavens said, “This is My beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.”
    📖 Matthew 17:5While he was still speaking, a bright cloud overshadowed them, and behold, a voice from the cloud said, “This is My beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased; listen to Him!”
  • Result: Jesus is not illegitimate. He is divinely begotten and prophetically affirmed from the OT.
Plain and simple.

Let’s Talk Culture for a Minute
In Jewish society, betrothal was a legal commitment. Joseph had every right to make a public accusation if he believed Mary had been unfaithful. But he did not. He planned to handle things quietly because he was righteous.
📖 Matthew 1:24And Joseph awoke from his sleep and did as the angel of the Lord commanded him, and took Mary as his wife...
He believed the angel’s word. He obeyed God instead of following public opinion. 

Here’s the Real Truth
Jesus came into this world not through scandal but through sovereignty. The same world that wants to label Him with shame is the one He came to save.
📖 Matthew 1:21You shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.
If you are calling Jesus an “illegitimate child,” be careful. That phrase implies there is a standard. And if there is a standard, then there is a Lawgiver, confirmation of the very God you deny. Let that sink in...

Now let’s turn to Deuteronomy 23:3
📖 Deuteronomy 23:3-4No Ammonite or Moabite may enter the assembly of the Lord; none of their descendants, even to the tenth generation, shall ever enter the assembly of the Lord, because they did not meet you with food and water on the way when you came out of Egypt, and because they hired Balaam... to curse you.
This is a vital question, and it shows you are thinking with biblical precision. When we say Deuteronomy 23:3 refers to Moabites who stayed in rebellion, we are making a claim based on careful interpretation. Here is how we know:

Key Insight: The exclusion is based on moral behavior, not race or biology.
  • The Moabites refused hospitality (hostility to God's people)
  • They actively opposed Israel by trying to curse them spiritually through Balaam
That means the exclusion targets Moabites who persisted in those hostile, rebellious actions. It does not apply to those who repented and turned to Yahweh.

Addressing a Common Mistake:
Some have even claimed that Mary was a Moabite to argue that Jesus was disqualified based on Deuteronomy 23:3. That claim is historically and biblically false. Mary was a Jewish woman from the tribe of Judah. Luke 3 traces her lineage through David’s son Nathan, and Matthew 1 traces Jesus’ legal heritage through Joseph, descended from David through Solomon. Mary was not a Gentile convert like Ruth. She was a native Israelite, and her lineage fulfills the messianic requirement that the Christ come from David’s house.

Logical Syllogism:
  • Premise 1: Deut. 23:3-4 gives specific moral reasons for Moabite exclusion.
  • Premise 2: Ruth, the Moabite, repented and embraced Yahweh.
  • Conclusion: The law does not apply to repentant Moabites like Ruth.

Analogy:
A nation might say, “No Nazi official can serve in our government.” But someone born in Germany who denounces Nazism and becomes a loyal citizen would not be excluded.
Likewise, Ruth denounced Moabite gods and joined God’s people.

Scriptural Support:
📖 Ruth 1:16Your people shall be my people, and your God, my God.
📖 Ruth 2:12May the Lord reward you... under whose wings you have come to seek refuge.
Boaz, a devout Israelite, affirms Ruth is under Yahweh’s protection now. She is no longer treated as an outsider.

Historical-Theological Support:
Quote:"The Deuteronomic command targets national identity in rebellion, not converted individuals like Ruth. Her inclusion proves that grace overrules generational curse."
Keil and Delitzsch, OT Commentary

Theological Terms:
  • Covenantal Realignment: A person’s status before God is based on covenant allegiance, not ancestry.
  • Moral Conditionality: Biblical laws include ethical reasons, not just ethnic lineage.

Quote:Deuteronomy 23:3 says no Moabite can enter the assembly. But Ruth wasn’t like that. She left her gods and chose Israel’s God. The law didn’t apply to her. She had joined God’s people.
Boaz knew that. The whole town blessed her. And God welcomed her into the family line of Jesus.

Final Reflection
The world will try to shame what it does not understand. But the Scriptures show that God does not operate on human shame. He redeems it. Jesus did not come from a place of dishonor. He came to undo ours.
The same God who appointed a virgin-born Messiah also welcomed a Moabite woman into His covenant family. That is the gospel. It is not about pedigree. It is about promise.
If your past feels like a curse, remember Ruth. If people try to shame your faith, remember Mary. And if anyone questions Jesus' legitimacy, point them to the empty tomb.
He is not an illegitimate child. He is Lord.
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