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ris3n   08-04-2025, 09:40 AM
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You’ve heard it before. "There’s no evidence for God." It's a bold claim, but is it even coherent? Let's dig into that and ask the right question: what method are they using to test that absence? Because when we put that claim under the microscope, it falls apart before it even gets to the lab.


1. Is This Really A Claim They Can Prove?
Saying there is no evidence for God is not a humble personal doubt. Saying this is a universal claim. It assumes that every possible domain (logical, historical, scientific, moral, metaphysical) has been exhaustively searched and found empty.
No one has done that. Not even close.
What’s really going on is usually this: “I haven’t found the evidence convincing.” That’s not the same as saying none exists. That’s not an epistemological objection. That’s just personal preference dressed up as logic.
This is what philosophers call the fallacy of personal incredulity. Just because something doesn’t sit right with you doesn’t mean it isn’t true.


2. They Are Using The Wrong Tool for the Job
Now here’s where the trap gets tighter. Most skeptics lean heavily on science to do the work of disproving God. But science studies the natural, physical world. God (by every classical definition) is not part of the created order. He is transcendent.
So if you say, "I won’t believe in anything science can’t detect," you’ve already rigged the game. That’s like a man with a metal detector saying wood doesn’t exist. The tool isn’t broken. You’re just using it on the wrong category.


3. They Are Borrowing from God to Argue Against Him
Now here’s the knockout punch. Even the skeptic has to rely on certain immaterial truths to make their case: logic, mathematics, moral realism. These are not material. They are not bound by time, space, or biology. But they’re real.
Where do those come from?
A worldview built on molecules and blind physics can’t account for universals. But theism can. The Christian God is the grounding for logic, morality, and meaning. When someone uses those tools to reject Him, they’re biting the hand that upholds their entire framework.
Cornelius Van Til called it a “transcendental theft.”

C.S. Lewis put it this way:
Quote:"If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning." (Mere Christianity)
Boom.


4. Wrap-Up: Why the Claim Fails
"There is no evidence for God" collapses because:
  • It assumes total knowledge across all disciplines.
  • It depends on immaterial reasoning tools it can’t justify.
  • It dismisses God on the basis of a method that rules Him out by definition.
That ain’t skepticism folks that's dishonesty rooted in pride.


How do you usually respond when someone says “there’s no evidence for God”? 
Sound off. Iron sharpens iron.
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